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Darril Wilburn & Hiro Yoshiki on Inside Toyota's Way
Why do so many companies implement TPS tools and still fail to sustain any of it? Keith Norris sits down with returning guest Darril Wilburn, senior partner at Honsha, and Hiro Yoshiki, who spent 35 years at Toyota Motor Corporation and helped create the Toyota Way 2001. Together they unpack the courage, humility, and kaizen behind Toyota culture.
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Darril Wilburn & Hiro Yoshiki on Inside Toyota's Way
Why do TPS tools fail without culture? Two Toyota veterans reveal the courage behind kaizen.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with returning guest Darril Wilburn, senior partner at Honsha, and first-time guest Hiro Yoshiki, who spent 35 years at Toyota Motor Corporation before serving as president of Futaba Industrial, a major Toyota group supplier. Hiro worked on the site selection for Toyota's first wholly owned U.S. plant in Kentucky, helped create the Toyota Way 2001, and led the Kentucky plant's turnaround. Together, Hiro and Darril have co-authored Courage, Humility, Kaizen: The Three Disciplines of Toyota Culture.
🔻 Why so many companies implement TPS tools and still fail to sustain any of it
🔻 What courage actually means at Toyota and why setting a vision is one of the most courageous things a leader can do
🔻 How Genchi Genbutsu goes wrong when leaders show up with the answer already in their head
🔻 How Toyota's escalation model works so that problems get solved at the lowest possible level
🔻 Why the relentless pursuit of QCD is the true definition of TPS and everything else is just technique
🔻 What healthy paranoia means and why Hiro says he prefers it to any amount of recognition or celebration
🔻 How Hiro learned to never label people and why that became one of the most important lessons of his career
📚 Courage, Humility, Kaizen by Darril Wilburn and Hiro Yoshiki: https://www.amazon.com/Courage-Humility-Kaizen-Disciplines-Leadership/dp/B0HJP39WQH/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0#detailBullets_feature_div
🌐 Learn more at Honsha: https://honsha.org/
🌐 Japan Study Missions with Darril and Hiro: https://www.honsha.org/events/executive-development-mission-next-edition/
🔗 Connect with Darril Wilburn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrilwilburn/
🔗 Connect with Hiro Yoshiki on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hiroyoshi-yoshiki-619b86a0/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Nick Katko on Continuous Improvement for Accounting
Recurring invoice errors aren’t a people problem: Nick Katko shows how to improve the accounting process.
If your accounting team is buried in rework, chasing down missing approvals, and fixing the same invoice errors every month, the problem is not your people. It is your process.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, Keith Norris welcomes back Nick Katko, the very first guest on the podcast, former CFO, lean accounting consultant, and author of multiple books on lean in finance. Nick's newest book is written specifically for accounting leaders who want to build a real continuous improvement system without having to become lean experts first.
🔻 How to apply PDCA in an accounting department without using a single piece of lean terminology
🔻 Why the four types of problems require four completely different responses and how to tell them apart
🔻 How a 43% invoice defect rate traced back to a flow problem nobody in accounting could see on their own
🔻 Why overtime is almost never a demand problem and what to measure instead to find the real cause
🔻 How the lean box score connects operational performance to financial performance in a way a spreadsheet never will
🔻 Why jumping to solutions before understanding root cause is the most common reason improvement events fail
🔻 What lean is really about, and why leaders who get that one thing right change everything
🔗 Connect with Nick Katko on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickkatko/
📚 Nick's books: https://maskell.com/about/our-books/
🌐 Accounting CI System book resources: https://www.accountingcisbook.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Sylvie Fortier on Operational Excellence Everywhere
Executing on the wrong problem? Sylvie Fortier shows why alignment comes before action.
Most organizations try to execute before they have ever aligned on what problem they are actually solving. Sylvie Fortier has spent her career fixing that.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Sylvie Fortier, founder of Phoenix Praxis and a veteran of Motorola during the foundational years of Six Sigma. Sylvie has carried that early education across telecommunications, financial services, technology startups, and now ambulatory surgery centers, where she helps leaders strip away complexity, surface what actually matters, and build operating models that can scale without scaling the friction. Her philosophy is straightforward: operational excellence is not about making people work harder. It is about making the optimal outcome easier, more visible, and more repeatable.
🔻 Why execution can never compensate for strategic ambiguity and what to align on first
🔻 What Motorola taught Sylvie that most organizations never figure out about defects outside the manufacturing floor
🔻 Why scattered data creates the illusion of visibility without creating any real understanding
🔻 How to tell the difference between clinical resistance and a team telling you your process design has a flaw
🔻 Why co-design matters more than a perfect process handed down from the outside
🔗 Connect with Sylvie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sylviefortier/
🌐 Phoenix Praxis: https://thePhoenixPraxis.com Home to the 42-Second Phoenix Pulse, a free diagnostic that instantly baselines your exposure to integration bottlenecks and leadership dependency risk in just seven critical questions.
🌐 The Clean Food Protocol: https://TheCleanFoodProtocol.com Systems thinking applied to food sourcing and consumer choice.
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Catherine McDonald on AI, Leadership, and Collaboration
Being good at your job doesn’t teach you leadership: Catherine McDonald explores how AI can help.
Most managers were promoted because they were great at their job. Nobody taught them how to lead. Catherine McDonald is on a mission to fix that.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris welcomes back Catherine McDonald, founder of MCD Consulting and a leadership development coach who combines lean thinking, organizational behavior, and executive coaching to help managers at every level become the leaders their teams actually need.
🔻 Why time management is the foundation of every other leadership skill and how to use AI to finally build it
🔻 How to create your leader standard work in one week using nothing but your calendar and a chat with AI
🔻 Why asking one focused question gets you further in a coaching conversation than asking ten open ones
🔻 How to use the GROW model to structure a coaching conversation even if you have never been trained as a coach
🔻 Why you have to process the feeling before you can think clearly about the problem and how the FTLA model helps
🔻 Why recording your team meetings and running the transcript through AI is one of the best free feedback tools available
🔻 How to apply PDCA at the team level to make every meeting more useful than the last
🔗 Connect with Catherine McDonald on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-mcdonald-b6157210a/
🌐 Learn more about MCD Consulting: https://mcdconsulting.ie/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Jonathan Lewis on The New Story of Work
The old promise of workplace loyalty is gone: Jonathan Lewis asks what story your team believes now.
The old story of work is gone. Work hard, be loyal, get rewarded, retire to a beach someday. That shared story no longer exists. So what story is your team telling instead?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Jonathan David Lewis, president of McKee Wallwork, a brand strategy firm, Forbes contributor, and author of The Rebuilders: Daily Foundations for the Leaders We Need. Jonathan led a national psychographic study of over 3,000 workforce participants to understand how people think about work today, and what he found should change how every leader thinks about hiring, culture, and what it actually means to lead.
🔻 Why the shared story of work has fragmented and what that means for every person you hire
🔻 How 56% of today's workforce describing themselves as struggling or suffering should change how you lead
🔻 Why your most important job as a leader is not strategy or execution but telling the right story
🔻 Why laddering up the purpose of work is the difference between people who show up and people who are all in
🔻 Why you cannot take the same things for granted from this workforce that you could from the last one
🔻 How the idea at the center of your culture determines everything and most leaders have never named it
📚 The Rebuilders by Jonathan David Lewis: https://www.mckeewallwork.com/book-review/the-rebuilders-daily-foundations-for-the-leaders-we-need/
🔗 Connect with Jonathan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanlewis11/
🌐 Learn more about McKee Wallwork: https://www.mckeewallwork.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Ram Sukumar on Scaling Continuous Improvement Across 13 Manufacturing Plants
One plant is a start: Ram Sukumar shares how continuous improvement scales across thirteen.
Most CI programs start with good intentions and stall at one plant. Ram Sukumar built one that works across thirteen.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Ram Sukumar, Director of Continuous Improvement for Hexpol Compounding Americas. Over the last six years, Ram has built and deployed the Hexpol Production System across 13 manufacturing plants in the US and Mexico, trained more than 1,100 employees across white, yellow, and green belt programs, and created a culture where CI is not a program that happens to employees but something they genuinely own. Ram is one of the most thoughtful and people-first CI leaders you will find anywhere in manufacturing today.
🔻 Why understanding the culture of a plant before you push a system into it is the difference between adoption and resistance
🔻 How Hexpol built a four-level belt program that starts with leadership training
🔻 How to standardize metrics across 13 plants so every managing director is learning from every other plant in real time
🔻 Why conflicting priorities kill more CI programs than lack of tools and how Hoshin planning finally solved it for Hexpol
🔻 How to scale AI into your operations without rushing in before your data and your people are ready
🔻 Why improvement is not an event or a program and what it looks like when your CEO believes that too
🔗 Connect with Ram Sukumar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramsukumar22/
🔗 Learn more about Hexpol: https://www.hexpol.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Keshawn Cupid on The Next Generation of Continuous Improvement
What if your mindset is the bottleneck? Keshawn Cupid brings the human side to AI-driven improvement.
What if the biggest barrier to improvement in your organization is not the process, the tools, or even the data? What if it is the way people see the problem in the first place?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris welcomes back Keshawn Cupid, founder of Modern Kaizen and a lean and operational excellence expert on the cutting edge of human-centered AI transformation. Keshawn works with organizations across manufacturing, consulting, and professional development, and brings a rare combination of emotional intelligence, lean rigor, and practical AI implementation to every engagement. His approach starts not with tools but with mindset and he has written two books on exactly that.
🔻 Why a growth mindset is the only mindset that makes AI adoption actually work
🔻 How to introduce lean to a skeptical team without ever saying the word lean
🔻 Why the absence of reported problems is never the same as the absence of real problems
🔻 How to ask "what changed?" instead of "what is wrong?" and immediately get better answers
🔻 Why on-time delivery is one of the most manipulated metrics in manufacturing and what to measure instead
🔻 How to use AI as a thought partner to challenge your assumptions before you commit to a strategy
🔻 Why repeatable and rule-based processes are the first ones you should be targeting with AI
🔻 What emotional intelligence has to do with whether your lean transformation actually sticks
📚 Making the Transition: Inward to Outward Mindset by Keshawn Cupid: https://a.co/d/068Xgklf
📚 The Synergy Mindset by Keshawn Cupid: https://a.co/d/0b9299fF
🌐 Modern Kaizen: https://www.modernkaizen.com
🌐 Kaizen Edge X: https://kaizenedgex.co
🌐 MK Train X: https://mktrainx.co
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Alan Lucien on Building a High Performance Team
Grow a business you still love running: Alan Lucien explores teams and systems that prevent founder burnout.
What does it actually take to build a business you love running for 25 years without burning out, selling out, or losing yourself in the process?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Alan Lucien, co-founder of EZ Process Pro, the ERP platform purpose-built for furniture and mattress retailers. Twenty-five years ago, Alan and his wife Jill could not find software that understood their family furniture business, so they built their own. That software now powers over 1,000 stores across the country, processes billions of dollars in annual furniture sales, and helped one customer scale from four showrooms to over 200 before selling for a billion dollars.
🔻 Why the two most important jobs of any leader have nothing to do with being the smartest person in the room
🔻 How to hire for core values instead of just skills so you never have to manage a cancer in your culture
🔻 Why every question someone brings you is a sign you are the bottleneck and what to do about it
🔻 How to run a weekly meeting that people actually want to show up to, including the push-up rule
🔻 How to set quarterly rocks that are objective, measurable, and do not blow up when life gets in the way
🔻 Why Alan asks "is that true?" before every major decision and what Navy SEALs taught him about honesty
🔗 Connect with Alan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-lucien-9a633b9/
🔗 Learn more about EZ Process Pro: https://www.ezprocesspro.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Dr. Alan Barnard on Finding Your AI Bottleneck
AI is powerful, so why aren’t you seeing results? Dr. Alan Barnard helps find the real bottleneck.
If AI is so powerful, why are most companies not getting results from it? The answer has everything to do with whether you are solving the right problem.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Dr. Alan Barnard, CEO of Goldratt Research Labs, decision scientist, and one of the world's leading experts in theory of constraints. Alan co-founded Goldratt Research Labs with Dr. Eli Goldratt, the creator of theory of constraints, and has spent decades helping organizations apply systems thinking to everything from supply chains to healthcare to AI adoption.
🔻 Why AI applied to the wrong bottleneck produces zero improvement no matter how powerful it is
🔻 How to tell in one question whether you have a doing bottleneck or a waiting bottleneck
🔻 Why intentionally creating a bottleneck can actually increase the overall output of your system
🔻 How to go from assembler to architect in the way you use AI so you stop being the constraint
🔻 Why outcome prompting beats method prompting and what context and constraints you have to give AI to get useful answers
🔻 How our emotions evolved as a decision making hack and why AI may need to develop something similar
🔻 How theory of constraints applies to your own health, energy, and the way your mitochondria functions
🔗 Connect with Dr. Alan Barnard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dralanbarnard/
🌐 Books, white papers, and resources: https://www.standontheirshoulders.com/
🌐 Eternity Health: https://www.eternityhealth.ai/
🌐 Goldratt Research Labs: https://www.goldrattresearchlabs.com/
🌐 Harmony Apps: https://www.harmonyapps.com/
🌐 Dr. Alan Barnard: https://www.dralanbarnard.com/
🌐 Coaching with Dr. Alan: https://coaching.dralanbarnard.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

David Norris on Building a Culture of Improvement
Improvement isn’t a one-off project: David Norris shows how to make it part of your culture.
Most organizations treat continuous improvement like a project. The ones that actually get results treat it like a culture.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with David Norris. David Norris is the founder of Elevated Strategic Solutions, a consulting firm focused on helping organizations unlock capacity, improve performance, and align strategy with execution through operational excellence, continuous improvement, and data-driven decision-making.
🔻 Why improvement that skips the people always reverts the moment something goes wrong
🔻 How to use new employee onboarding to plant a CI mindset before old habits take hold
🔻 Why "we don't have time for this" is the single best signal that improvement is overdue
🔻 How to turn a budget request into a CI conversation before a single dollar gets approved
🔻 Why tracking both direct and indirect costs is where the real savings are hiding
🔻 Why CI and finance need to be working together if you want leadership to actually buy in
🔗 Connect with David Norris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-norris-17016b146/
🌐 Learn more at Elevated Strategic Solutions: http://elevatedmtnsolutions.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

John Hetherington on Why a 2x Growth Target Breaks Most Operations
A bigger growth target won’t fix a hidden constraint: John Hetherington shows where to look first.
Most companies chasing a big growth target are solving the wrong problem. And the real constraint is usually hiding in plain sight.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with John Hetherington, founder of We Deliver Your Vision and a process optimization consultant with more than 25 years of experience helping CFOs and COOs turn ambitious boardroom targets into measurable operational results. John started his career at Deloitte and Ernst and Young, leading large-scale finance transformation programs before building his own firm around one simple idea: find the single constraint holding your operation back, remove it, and prove the business result actually improved.
🔻 Why the first thing a company thinks is broken almost never is the real constraint
🔻 Why automating a bad process with AI just helps you fail faster at larger scale
🔻 How to use three metrics instead of ten to actually hit your growth target
🔻 How to apply the three R's to decide whether a process is actually ready for AI
🔻 Why asking "how are you feeling about this?" is one of the most powerful questions in operations
🔻 How to manage AI like a new hire instead of handing it the keys to everything at once
💬 Comment "flow" on this episode to receive John's free five-step production flow framework for assessing your constraint and growth targets.
🔗 Connect with John Hetherington on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhetherington1/
🌐 Learn more at We Deliver Your Vision: https://www.wedeliveryourvision.com/
🎥 Watch John on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JohnHetherington.channel
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Marc Levinson on Shipping Containers & Lessons for AI
What can shipping containers teach us about AI? Marc Levinson connects past disruption with tomorrow’s workforce.
What can a steel shipping container teach us about artificial intelligence? More than you would think.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Marc Levinson, historian, economist, and author of The Box, the definitive history of the shipping container. Marc formerly served as finance and economics editor at The Economist, an economist at JP Morgan Chase, and a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.
🔻 Why standardization is the hardest problem in any major innovation and how the container finally solved it
🔻 How a single change in how goods move can hollow out entire cities and create entirely new industries in places nobody expected
🔻 What Malcolm McLean's biggest wins and biggest losses teach us about betting on new technology
🔻 How to think about the jobs AI will displace before assuming everyone will simply adjust
🔻 Why the countries that handled the shift best had one thing in common that the US largely did not
🔻 What individuals working in disrupted industries can do right now to stay ahead of the wave
🔗 Learn more about Marc Levinson and his books: https://www.marclevinson.net/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Jhana Li on Founder Chaos to Scalable Systems
Those recurring fires aren’t bad luck: Jhana Li shows how to turn founder chaos into scalable systems.
The fires showing up in your business every week are not bad luck. They are a signal that something in your operations is broken underneath the surface.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Jhana Li, founder of Spyglass Ops, a firm that has pioneered the operator placement model, embedding a fractional COO directly into a business while the search for a permanent hire is underway. Jhana has been a COO for two startups, an operations coach for hundreds of founders, and has built one of the most practical and no-nonsense frameworks for how growing companies should think about the operations function, from the first ops hire all the way through to a fully scaled team.
🔻 Why every recurring fire in your business is data, not a crisis, and what it is actually telling you
🔻 How to know whether an operations problem is a systems issue or a people issue
🔻 Why managing to outcomes instead of inputs is what unlocks real team autonomy and AI adoption
🔻 How to build a job scorecard that works for hiring, onboarding, and performance all at once
🔻 Why really good operations looks like nothing and how to advocate for it anyway
🔻 How to tell the difference between an ops manager, a director of ops, and a COO so you hire the right level
🔻 Why AI layered onto broken systems just helps you sprint faster in the wrong direction
🔻 How to democratize SOP ownership so documentation never falls behind again
🔗 Connect with Jhana Li on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jhana-li/
🎥 Follow Jhana on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theJhanaLi
📱 Follow Jhana on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejhanali/
🔗 Learn more about Spyglass Ops: https://bit.ly/4ftmOFR
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Matt Yearsley on Why Bad Systems Beat Good Employees
Good employees can’t beat bad systems: Matt Yearsley shows leaders what to fix first.
Most leaders blame the person. The real problem is almost always the system.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Matt Yearsley, founder of Operational Excellence Advisors and a manufacturing and operations leader with more than 25 years of experience. Matt helps growing companies move beyond firefighting by building the systems, standards, and people development practices that let good employees actually succeed.
🔻 Why "hold them accountable" is meaningless without a documented standard to point to
🔻 How to know in three questions whether a failure belongs to the employee or to you as a leader
🔻 How to use a one-on-one to keep standards alive instead of letting them collect dust on a shelf
🔻 How to turn a chronic complainer or a troublemaker into your best problem solver
🔻 Why busy is not the same as productive, and how to tell the difference
🔻 How to define what winning looks like for jobs where success is hard to measure
🔗 Connect with Matt Yearsley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-yearsley-0317b0/
🔗 Learn more about Operational Excellence Advisors: https://www.opex-advisors.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Darril Wilburn on Courage, Humility, and Kaizen
Copying Toyota’s tools misses the point: Darril Wilburn explores the leadership thinking behind the Toyota Way.
What does it actually look like inside Toyota, and why do so many companies get lean so wrong when they try to follow it?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Darril Wilburn, senior partner at Honsha and a respected teacher, coach, and thought leader in lean leadership and the Toyota Way. He is co-author of the upcoming book Courage, Humility, Kaizen: The Leadership DNA of The Toyota Way.
🔻 Why 5S without connecting it to the work almost always fades within a year
🔻 What Western leaders get wrong when they try to adopt the Toyota Way
🔻 How Nemawashi is about preparing the soil, not just getting buy-in
🔻 How to tell the story of your CI function
🔻 Why great organizations put work to people instead of people to work
🔗 Connect with Darril Wilburn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrilwilburn/
🔗 Learn more at Darril's website: https://www.darrilwilburn.com/
🔗 Learn more about Honsha: https://honsha.org/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Lee Campe on Continuous Improvement and The Art Of Storytelling
A good solution needs a compelling story: Lee Campe shows how to get leaders listening and acting.
What if the biggest obstacle to fixing your business isn't the problem itself, but the way you're talking about it?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Lee Campe, Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt, consultant, educator, and U.S. Army Ranger School graduate. With over 10,000 people trained across industries, Lee makes the case that Lean Six Sigma is not a quality program or a variation reduction tool. It is structured problem solving, and everyone from machine operators to senior executives can use it.
🔻 Why Lean Six Sigma is problem solving first and process improvement second
🔻 Why executives jump to solutions and root causes before they even define the problem
🔻 The difference between hard and soft savings and why it matters for project credibility
🔻 How to tell if your X's actually predict your Y's before spending millions on the wrong fix
🔻 Why the art of storytelling is the most underrated skill in continuous improvement
🔻 How to use the define, measure, analyze, improve, and control phases to build a narrative that moves leadership to act
🔗 Connect with Lee Campe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leecampe/
📘 Buy Lee's Book: 'Lean Six Sigma: Defined correctly': https://a.co/d/0fuTv7cB
🔗 Visit Lee's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@leecampe1407
🔗 Visit Lee's Website: www.leecampe.com
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Tom Foster on How Accountability Starts With Structure
Personality clash or structural problem? Tom Foster explains why accountability starts with how work is organized.
What if most of your communication breakdowns and personality conflicts aren't people problems at all?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Tom Foster, author, speaker, and longtime business coach to CEOs and senior leaders. Drawing on more than two decades of work with executive peer groups and 800+ deliveries of his organizational structure workshop, Tom makes the case that accountability starts with structure.
🔻 Why communication breakdowns and personality conflicts are almost always structural problems in disguise
🔻 The five organizational life cycle stages and the strategic focus that belongs to each one
🔻 Why delegation is not a time management tool but your most powerful mechanism for growing an organization
🔻 How levels of work and time span help you match the right people to the right decisions
🔻 Why breaking down silos is the wrong goal and what to do instead
🔻 Why hierarchy exists not for reporting but to bring value to problem solving and decision making
📘 Order Tom's Book, "Premeditated Culture": https://a.co/d/01ioDINF
🔗 Connect with Tom Foster: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fosterlearning/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Tina Agustiady and Jennifer Ralston on What Happens When AI Meets Continuous Improvement
Can AI make Lean Six Sigma smarter? Tina Agustiady and Jennifer Ralston explore where it delivers.
Lean has always been about working smarter. AI might be its most powerful tool yet.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Jennifer Ralston and Tina Agustiady for a practical conversation on where AI and continuous improvement intersect. Jennifer is the CEO and Founder of HKPO and the HKPO Veterans Academy. Tina is a Six Sigma Master Black Belt, author, educator, and respected continuous improvement leader. Together, they make the case that structured problem-solving skills are more relevant than ever in an AI-driven world.
🔻 Why AI makes belt programs more powerful, not less relevant
🔻 How AI helps practitioners break through analysis paralysis in DMAIC projects
🔻 Real-world AI use cases across healthcare, finance, and manufacturing
🔻 Why you need domain expertise to prompt AI effectively
🔻 How to build AI adoption into organizational strategy and policy
🔻 What Dr. Deming's "knowledge of knowledge" tells us about AI transparency
🔻 How Lean Six Sigma certifications are impacting hiring and career advancement
🔗 Connect with Tina Agustiady on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tina-agustiady/
🔗 Connect with Jennifer Ralston on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeralston/
📘 Sign up for free Lean Six Sigma Yellow Belt Training for Veterans: https://gohkpo.com/training/
🎟️ Register now for the online Webinar "AI & Lean" on August 19th, 2026: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/ai-lean-tickets-1990425638666
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

John Garrett on Building a Culture People Stay For
Make improvement everyone’s job from day one: John Garrett explores trust and a culture people stay for.
What if your company expected every single employee to submit improvement ideas within their first six months on the job?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with John Garrett, who has spent the last 20 years as a Product Owner and Client Success Executive at 3M Health Information Systems, where he specializes in helping healthcare organizations and their customers get more value.
🔻 How 3M made CI part of every employee's job from day one
🔻 Why owning your forecast matters more than hitting it
🔻 How to build trust and drive change without direct authority
🔻 Why going on site beats every survey you'll ever send
🔻 The art of asking questions that get honest answers
🔗 Connect with John Garrett on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-garrett-b8767047/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Darren Dolcemascolo on Turning Improvement Into Sustained Execution
Move beyond improvement activity: Darren Dolcemascolo shows how leadership turns good intentions into sustained execution.
What separates organizations where continuous improvement fades after a leadership change from those where it becomes part of the company's DNA?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris welcomes back Darren Dolcemascolo, founder of EMS Consulting Group, for his second appearance on the show (first heard in Episode 31). With more than two decades of experience helping organizations improve operational performance through Lean Six Sigma, leadership development, and execution-focused consulting, Darren shares what it really takes to move beyond tools and improvement activity to build the operating discipline needed for measurable, sustainable results.
🔻 Why the terminology debate in Lean Six Sigma misses the point, and what actually matters
🔻 How leadership engagement (not lip service) determines whether improvement programs succeed or quietly die
🔻 Why CI teams are set up to fail when they own improvement instead of leadership owning it
🔻 How to structure a Green Belt program so it drives real ROI, not just completed coursework
🔻 What leader standard work is, why leaders should develop it themselves, and how to make it stick
🔻 Why Gemba walks matter, and what happens when leaders actually show up to where the work gets done
🔗 Connect with Darren Dolcemascolo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrendolcemascolo/
🔗 Visit EMS Consulting Group: https://www.emsstrategies.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Karen Martin on Clarity First: Flow, Metrics, and Leading Improvement
Busy processes don’t guarantee flow: Karen Martin shows why clarity comes first.
What does it take to design an organization where work actually flows and improvement never stops?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Karen Martin, president of TKMG and internationally recognized thought leader in operational excellence, Lean management, and business performance. Karen shares how organizations can achieve clarity, eliminate the obstacles that slow work down, and build the conditions where every leader takes ownership of improvement.
🔻 How to know the difference between a value stream and a process and why it matters
🔻 How to choose the relevant few metrics instead of drowning in data you never act on
🔻 Why the Belt program created a dangerous gap between improvement specialists and the leaders who should own it
🔻 How to build an improvement culture when your organization was never designed that way
🔻 Why continuous improvement belongs to leadership, not a dedicated team
🔗 Learn more about Karen Martin and TKMG: https://www.tkmg.com
🔗 Connect with Karen Martin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenmartinopex/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Danny Toney on Data Driven Leadership
More data doesn’t mean more clarity: Danny Toney shows how leaders find what matters.
Most leadership teams are flying blind. They have plenty of data but no clarity on what actually matters, who owns it, or what to do when things go off track.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Danny Toney, Certified EOS Implementer and business improvement consultant, who helps leadership teams cut through the noise and drive measurable traction.
🔻 Why your weekly meetings feel like a four out of ten and how to fix that
🔻 How to spot a problem three months before a customer calls to complain
🔻 Why treating symptoms keeps the same issues coming back every single quarter
🔻 How 90 day priorities keep your whole leadership team pulling in the same direction
🔻 Why the most successful leaders have more clarity than everyone else and how to get it
🔻 How to use EOS as a tool that makes every person's work life better, not just the bottom line
🔗 Connect with Danny Toney on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannytoney/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Katie Anderson on Building Teams That Think, Learn, and Improve
Stop being the leader with every answer: Katie Anderson shows how to develop people who think for themselves.
What separates organizations that improve occasionally from those that build improvement into their DNA?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Katie Anderson, internationally recognized leadership consultant, speaker, and author of the Shingo Award-winning book Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn. Katie shares how leaders can create learning-driven cultures, develop people through problem solving, and avoid the trap of becoming the hero with all the answers.
🔻 Why great leaders “own the thinking process, not the thinking”
🔻 The difference between solving problems and developing problem solvers
🔻 The danger of focusing on templates instead of thinking frameworks
🔻 Why caring about people doesn’t mean carrying all the responsibility
🔻 How AI can accelerate learning without replacing human thinking
🔗 Connect with Katie Anderson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbjanderson/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Jeff Gray on Building a Career in Continuous Improvement
Turn everyday problems into innovation: Jeff Gray explores improvement that removes work instead of adding it.
Every company has problems. The difference is whether those problems become expensive failures or opportunities for innovation.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, Keith Norris sits down with Jeff Gray to explore how Continuous Improvement principles can help organizations reduce waste, engage employees, improve quality, and create sustainable operational systems. Jeff shares stories and lessons from decades of experience helping companies solve real-world process challenges.
🔻 Why every organization, regardless of industry, runs on processes
🔻 The importance of reducing variation before improving flow
🔻 Why employee ideas often create the biggest innovation breakthroughs
🔻 The power of visual management and Obeya rooms in operational excellence
🔻 Why Continuous Improvement is about removing work, not adding more work
🔗 Connect with Jeff Gray on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-gray-123b0ab/
🔗 Learn more about Lean Revisions, LLC: https://leanrevisions.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/LEAN-REVISIONS-Capability-Statement-April-2026.pdf
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Duane Deason on Smarter Cost Management
Stop reacting to costs: Duane Deason explores smarter decisions that protect value instead of just cutting budgets.
What separates companies that control costs from those constantly reacting to them?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Duane Deason to unpack what smarter cost management really looks like in practice. This isn’t about cutting budgets or tightening spending. It’s about understanding where cost is created, where value is lost, and how organizations can make better decisions with clearer data.
🔻 Cost problems are usually system problems
🔻 You can’t manage what you can’t clearly see
🔻 Cost reduction vs. cost understanding
🔻 Data needs to be usable, not just available
🔗 Connect with Duane Deason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/duanedeason/
🔗 Learn more about the Efficacy Group Cost Management Services: https://efficacygroup.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Chris Keahey on The Value of Tracking ROI in CI
Can you prove your improvement paid off? Chris Keahey makes the case for tracking real ROI.
What happens when continuous improvement teams can clearly prove their impact?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Chris Keahey to break down why tracking ROI is one of the most critical and overlooked aspects of any CI program.
Chris shares how his journey from firefighting into Lean Six Sigma shaped his approach to discipline, standard work, and decision-making under pressure. But the core of the conversation focuses on a bigger challenge: making CI measurable, defensible, and valuable in the eyes of leadership.
🔻 If you can’t prove ROI, CI becomes vulnerable.
🔻 Validated data beats projected savings.
🔻 Finance alignment is non-negotiable.
🔻 Standard definitions create consistency.
🔻 Your program should speak the language of leadership.
🔗 Connect with Chris Keahey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ckeahey18/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Cheryl Jekiel on Letting Go To Lead
Having every answer can make you the bottleneck: Cheryl Jekiel shows why letting go builds stronger teams.
What if the biggest mistake leaders make… is trying to be the answer?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Cheryl Jekiel, founder of the Lean Leadership Center, to unpack one of the hardest shifts in leadership: letting go.
🔻 Why most leaders are underprepared to lead, and how that shows up in real organizations
🔻 How letting go actually creates stronger, more capable teams
🔻 The difference between directing, training, mentoring, and coaching
🔻 How to handle team ideas without shutting people down
🔻 What great leaders do differently to build independence instead of reliance
🔗 Connect with Cheryl Jekiel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheryljekiel/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Jess Orr on What Leaders Get Wrong About Transformation
Transformation can’t belong to a few specialists: Jess Orr explores improvement that involves everyone.
Why do so many continuous improvement programs fail to deliver lasting impact?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Jess Orr, a business transformation leader with deep experience in Lean and continuous improvement, including time working directly at Toyota. Jess shares why many organizations limit their results by concentrating improvement efforts in a small group of specialists instead of building a system that engages everyone.
🔻 Why limiting CI to specialists restricts impact and scalability
🔻 Why sustainable improvement requires systems, not just short-term wins
🔻 How to justify CI investment using data and performance metrics
🔻 The role of leaders in building problem-solving capability across teams
🔗 Connect with Jess Orr on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessorr/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Francine Bejarano on The Execution Gaps Leaders Don't See
Delivering the request isn’t always delivering value: Francine Bejarano exposes the execution gaps leaders miss.
What happens when teams deliver everything they were asked for, but still miss what the customer actually wanted?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Francine Bejarano, a program and product delivery leader who has led major technology and transformation initiatives at companies like T-Mobile, IBM, and Verizon.
🔻 The difference between output metrics and outcome-driven success
🔻 Why success must be defined upfront, not measured at the end
🔻 How “voice of the customer” changes alignment and priorities
🔻 The danger of “watermelon metrics” (green on the outside, red on the inside)
🔻 Why understanding the “why” drives better execution and buy-in
🔻 How visibility and structured prioritization improve decision-making
🔗 Connect with Francine Bejarano on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francine-bejarano-173725149/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Stan Bryant on Translating Vision Into Action
A finished project isn’t the finish line: Stan Bryant connects execution with adoption and business results.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Stan Bryant, a senior project management professional and principal of Strategic Initiative Solutions. With a career spanning large-scale technology integration, operations leadership, and PMO development, Stan shares what it takes to lead complex projects, build PMOs that prove their value, and help organizations connect project execution to measurable business results.
🔻Why projects are often born from pain points leaders no longer want to tolerate, from mandates to cost pressures to operational inefficiencies.
🔻How project leaders can better communicate with sponsors by matching updates to stakeholder influence and interest.
🔻Why discipline in planning, stakeholder management, communication, and risk mitigation is essential for project success.
🔻Why change management and formal authorization plans are often the missing link between project delivery and real operational adoption.
🔗 Connect with Stan Bryant through email: sbryant@sis-pm.com
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Lyndsay MacLeod on Leadership That Sustains Change
Lean isn’t just for factories: Lyndsay MacLeod brings better flow and a learning mindset to technology teams.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Lyndsay MacLeod, an award-winning continuous improvement professional with more than 20 years of experience leading transformational change across engineering, manufacturing, and financial services. With a background spanning Lean Six Sigma, process improvement, Agile, and operational excellence, Lyndsay shares how Lean principles can strengthen technology teams, why visibility matters in software delivery, and how leaders can build cultures of learning instead of fear.
🔻 Why Lean thinking is especially valuable in technology organizations with complexity, legacy systems, and technical debt.
🔻 How value stream mapping helps software teams understand flow, expose bottlenecks, and improve feature delivery.
🔻 How control charts create better conversations than red-amber-green dashboards by separating normal variation from true signals.
🔻 How leadership mindset and behavior play a major role in creating high-performing teams and sustainable transformation.
🔻 Why Lyndsay’s perspective on applying Lean in male-dominated environments highlights the resilience, credibility, and adaptability needed to make improvement work.
🔗 Connect with Lyndsay MacLeod on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyndsay-macleod-7b12215/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Christoph Roser on Why Improvement Fails Without Standard Work
Why do improvements disappear? Christoph Roser reveals how standard work makes them stick.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Chris Roser, a worldwide renowned expert for lean production; Toyota, McKinsey, and Bosch Alumni, and professor for Production Management at the Karlsruhe University of applied sciences.. Drawing on decades of experience in manufacturing, supply chain management, bottleneck detection, and Lean research, Chris explains why improvement fails without standard work.
🔻 Why Toyota and BMW get dramatically more improvement ideas from frontline workers than most Western companies.
🔻 How supervisors use regular checklists to make improvement part of daily work instead of an extra task
🔻 Why the smallest improvement ideas often create the biggest long-term advantage when companies actually pick them up
🔻 The critical difference between work standards, standard work, SOPs, and leader standard work
🔻 Why copying Toyota tool-for-tool usually fails, and what companies should do instead
🔻 Why improvement disappears when it is not captured and sustained through work standards
🔗 Connect with Chris Roser on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christoph-roser-allaboutlean/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Nick Belcher on Creating a People-First Lean Culture
Lean tools alone don’t build culture: Nick Belcher puts people and leadership behaviors first.
What separates short-term Lean initiatives from lasting Lean cultures?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Nick Belcher, a Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt and Lean Culture Architect who has spent decades helping organizations move beyond Lean tools and build people-first improvement cultures. Nick shares why lasting transformation happens when leaders focus on developing people, reinforcing behaviors, and embedding continuous improvement into everyday work rather than treating it as a separate initiative.
🔻 Why Lean tools alone cannot sustain improvement without cultural change
🔻 What a people-first Lean culture actually looks like in practice
🔻 Why leadership behaviors determine whether Lean succeeds or fails
🔻 Why continuous improvement must become part of daily work
🔻 The role of engagement and trust in sustaining Lean transformations
🔻 How organizations move from isolated improvements to enterprise-wide learning
🔻 Why developing people is the foundation of operational excellence
🔗 Connect with Nick Belcher on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickbelchermba/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Marcial Portillo on Building Systems and Behaviors That Make Improvement Stick
Make improvement a habit, not an event: Marcial Portillo connects daily systems with lasting cultural change.
Why do Lean tools fade away in so many organizations? And what actually makes improvement stick?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Marcial Portillo, a global operations and continuous improvement leader with more than 30 years of experience improving manufacturing and supply chain performance across the Americas, Europe, and Asia. Marcial currently leads deployment of Spirax’s operational excellence framework across its global supply network.
🔻 Why Lean tools without cultural foundation eventually fade away
🔻 Blending Shingo principles with a global operational excellence framework
🔻 Defining expected behaviors for every pillar and element of deployment
🔻 Leadership standard work and the importance of going to the Gemba
🔻 Structuring tiered meetings (Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3) to drive engagement
🔻 Measuring behaviors alongside SQDCP metrics
🔻 How daily management improves communication and problem escalation
🔻 Using KPIs and KBIs to reinforce systems and culture
🔻 The role of presence, authenticity, and consistency in sustaining change
🔻 Building dashboards that track maturity, financial impact, and culture
🔗 Connect with Marcial Portillo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcial-portillo-54388188/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Jennifer Ralston on Aligning Strategy and Culture
Strategy needs a culture that supports it: Jennifer Ralston connects clear objectives with trust and consistent leadership.
What separates organizations that struggle from those that truly win?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Jennifer Ralston. As CEO & Founder of HKPO and the HKPO Veterans Academy, she empowers organizations to innovate, execute, and sustain excellence. From Lean Six Sigma transformations at the American Red Cross to global strategic planning and culture assessments, Jennifer shares practical insights on cascading strategy, measuring what truly matters, and building trust-driven organizations.
🔻 Why strategic alignment is the foundation of strong culture
🔻 How to cascade strategy so every employee knows their role
🔻 The difference between SOPs and true standard work
🔻 Trust and respect as core cultural principles
🔻 How to run an effective strategy refresh session
🔻 Why organizations measure too much, and how to measure what truly matters
🔻 How leadership behaviors shape accountability
🔻 Why variation is the enemy, and how to eliminate it
🔻 Empowering transitioning service members through the HKPO Veterans Academy
🔗 Connect with Jennifer Ralston on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeralston/
📘 Sign up for free Lean Six Sigma Yellow Belt Training for Veterans: https://gohkpo.com/training/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Reed Shell on Combining AI, Agile, and Lean for Real Execution
Less routine work, more real execution: Reed Shell explores what happens when AI, Agile, and lean come together.
Is AI coming for your job, or just the parts of it you never liked doing in the first place?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Reed Shell, a project management leader with more than 30 years of experience in enterprise delivery and transformation. Reed teaches project management and artificial intelligence at the University of Utah and advises organizations on applying AI responsibly without losing human accountability.
🔻 Why quality must be integrated throughout a project, not inspected in at the end
🔻 How focusing on value instead of plans accelerated delivery before Agile was formalized
🔻 Lessons from Nike’s culture and why culture drives execution speed
🔻 Why respect for people is foundational to Lean and transformation
🔻 The real risk of AI: automating broken processes
🔻 Why value stream mapping and Lean thinking will be even more critical in an AI-driven world
🔻 AI as an “overly ambitious intern” that removes low-value work
🔻 Why change management is the missing ingredient in most AI rollouts
🔻 The autopilot analogy: AI handles the instruments, humans still fly the plane
🔻 How leaders can help teams embrace technology instead of fearing it
🔗 Connect with Reed Shell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reedshell/
📘 Learn more about Reed's Work: https://www.bluehippoconsulting.com
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Dean Kynaston on Leadership Gaps That Kill Agile
Agile won’t fix a leadership gap: Dean Kynaston explores the support teams need beyond process compliance.
Why does Agile fail even when teams are trained and processes are in place? In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris talks with Dean Kynaston, co-author of Agile Project Management for Dummies and Scrum for Dummies, about the leadership gaps that quietly derail Agile.
🔻 Why Agile is about adaptability, not process compliance
🔻 The difference between Agile values and the Scrum framework
🔻 What actually happens in an effective daily standup
🔻 The real role of Product Owners, Scrum Masters, and team members
🔻 Why story points are not a measure of productivity
🔻 How transparency and accountability emerge naturally on strong teams
🔻 Why leadership behavior determines whether Agile succeeds or fails
🔗 Connect with Dean Kynaston on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deankynaston/
📘 Buy "Agile Project Management For Dummies" on Amazon: https://a.co/d/0gcZEJBG
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Chris Gunderson on Putting Your Money Where Your Powerpoint Is
Your PowerPoint isn’t the result: Chris Gunderson challenges technology investments to deliver real customer value.
Why do large organizations invest heavily in technology and still fail to deliver real value? In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Chris Gunderson, a former oceanographic officer who spent decades working inside U.S. defense programs.
🔻 Why “technology without value is worthless” and how organizations confuse output with impact
🔻 How Porter’s value chain connects upstream activity to downstream customer value
🔻 Why incentives, not strategy decks, determine behavior
🔻 The danger of rewarding PowerPoint instead of results
🔻 What effective executives consistently do differently when allocating people, money, and attention
🔻 How fear, hierarchy, and compliance quietly undermine execution
This episode connects strategy, value, metrics, and culture through hard-earned lessons from some of the most complex systems in the world.
🔗 Connect with Chris Gunderson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisgunderson/
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🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Michael Stevens on Culture as a Leadership Tool
Compliance isn’t commitment: Michael Stevens explores how leadership shapes the culture people choose to contribute to.
How do leaders unknowingly create cultures of compliance instead of commitment? In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Michael Stevens, Presidential Professor of Leadership Studies and a global expert on the people side of performance, to explore what truly separates management from leadership and why respect, not authority, is the real driver of execution.
🔻 Why leadership is less about directing work and more about influencing how people choose to show up
🔻 The critical difference between managing processes and leading people
🔻 Michael’s two-axis leadership model: assertive vs passive and respectful vs disrespectful
🔻 Why intent does not matter nearly as much as how leadership behavior lands with employees
🔻 The concept of “intelligent disobedience” and why leaders must create space for employees to challenge decisions
🔻 Why asking questions before giving answers dramatically increases ownership and execution
🔻 How emotional intelligence, self-regulation, and empathy enable better leadership conversations
🔻 The four barriers that prevent managers from becoming leaders: knowing, doing, feeling, and being
🔻 Why “clear is kind” even when feedback stings and how respectful candor builds trust
This conversation is a masterclass in why leadership development is not about learning more techniques, but about rethinking how power, respect, and influence actually work inside organizations.
🔗 Connect with Michael Stevens on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelstevensphd/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Evan Unger on Transforming Meeting Culture
Your meeting culture may be costing more than time: Evan Unger shows why purpose and decisions matter.
How do bad meetings quietly destroy culture, morale, and execution? In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Evan Unger, a leadership and culture expert with more than 30 years of experience helping organizations improve how decisions actually get made.
🔻 Why meetings are where leadership actually shows up, and why people judge leaders based on how meetings feel
🔻 The real cost of 50% effective meetings on culture, morale, and execution
🔻 Evan’s POPRA model for effective meetings: Purpose, Objectives, Process, Roles, and Agreements
🔻 The difference between informational meetings, status updates, and true collaborative decision-making sessions
🔻 Why the “highest paid person’s opinion” (HPPO) often derails better decisions
🔻 How collaborative facilitation leads to stronger buy-in and faster execution
🔻 Practical techniques for running better virtual meetings, including timeboxing and simultaneous chat
🔻 Why leaders must “go slow to go fast” when designing meetings that actually stick
🔻 How improving meetings becomes one of the fastest ways to change organizational culture
🔗 Connect with Evan Unger on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-unger-6553597/
🔗 Learn more about the Collaborative Leadership Virtual Facilitation Skills Program:: https://www.terischwartzassociates.com/virtual/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/

Bryan Schmidt on Building Systems That Win
Turn paper-heavy finance into smarter systems: Bryan Schmidt explains where automation and quick wins pay off.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Bryan Schmidt, a CPA, author, and finance transformation leader who spent more than two decades turning manual, paper-heavy finance processes into streamlined, automated systems.
🔻 Why ERP systems are the foundation of any successful finance transformation
🔻 The simple ROI math executives expect and how to frame improvement ideas for approval
🔻 Why quick wins matter more than big projects early on
🔻 How automation can improve morale, not just efficiency
🔻 Why honesty and trust are essential when leading change
🔻 Practical advice for CI leaders on prioritization, governance, and learning from every project
🔗 Connect with Bryan Schmidt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-schmidt99/
🔗 Learn more about Bryan's book: https://www.financeautomationblueprint.com/my-book
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Claire Quigley on Fixing Failing Transformations
Transformation needs more than a slide deck: Claire Quigley explores readiness, engagement, and leadership that follows through.
How do you make innovation and transformation actually stick instead of stalling out in planning decks and dashboards? In this episode, Keith Norris talks with Claire Quigley, founder of Tech Team Whisperer. With more than 20 years of experience spanning strategy, innovation, digital transformation, and people leadership across startups and global organizations, Claire explains why most transformations fail and what leaders must do to become truly transformation-ready.
🔻 Why transformation success rates have barely changed in the last decade and what leaders overlook.
🔻 What it really means to be “transformation ready” before launching major initiatives.
🔻 Why purpose, not technology, is the anchor for successful innovation and change.
🔻 How leadership assumptions quietly derail improvement efforts.
🔻 The difference between tracking green dashboards and recognizing real progress on the floor.
🔻 Why adoption and utilization matter more than rolling out new digital tools.
🔻 How AI anxiety and “AI shame” show up inside organizations and what leaders can do about it.
🔻 Why visual thinking, value stream mapping, and simple CI tools still matter in digital teams.
🔻 How storytelling and better questions help leaders drive alignment and engagement.
🔗 Connect with Claire Quigley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-quigley-tech-team-whisperer/
🔗 Learn more about Tech Team Whisperer: https://www.techteamwhisperer.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Keshawn Cupid on Mindset, Metrics, and Momentum
Close the gap between goals and reality: Keshawn Cupid connects mindset, metrics, and daily improvement.
How do you build a continuous improvement system that works across industries, scales with growth, and actually changes how people think and act? In this episode, Keith Norris talks with Keshawn Cupid, CEO of Modern Kaizen. Drawing on his journey from the U.S. Navy to consulting across manufacturing, healthcare, food service, government contracting, and more, Keshawn shares why mindset comes before tools and how organizations can move from good intentions to real, repeatable results.
🔻 How mindset shifts unlock better problem solving, ownership, and engagement.
🔻 Why standard work is essential for consistency, learning, and sustainable improvement.
🔻 The difference between solving the current state and solving the gap.
🔻 Why over-motivated employees can unintentionally create risk without clear structure.
🔻 How CI managers act as translators between leadership goals and frontline execution.
🔻 Real-world examples of how chasing the wrong metric drives the wrong behavior.
🔻 Why Lean works in any industry where work is repeatable, from manufacturing to hospitals to food service.
🔻 How AI can turn complexity into clarity when paired with sound improvement thinking.
🔗 Connect with Keshawn Cupid on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keshawn-cupid-2ba86855/
🔗 Learn more about Modern Kaizen: https://modernkaizen.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Bob Emiliani on The Discipline of Lean Leadership
The right lean tools can’t compensate for the wrong leadership: Bob Emiliani explores the discipline of respect.
How often do organizations say they are “doing Lean” while quietly undermining it through everyday leadership behaviors?
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Bob Emiliani, a respected author, researcher, and longtime critic of superficial Lean implementations. Bob shares candid insights on why most Lean transformations fail, the difference between tools and true Lean thinking, and how leadership behavior either enables or destroys continuous improvement.
🔻 Why most Lean transformations fail even when the right tools are in place.
🔻 How leadership behavior shapes culture more than any CI methodology.
🔻 Why “respect for people” is often misunderstood or ignored in practice.
🔻 The hidden ways classical management destroys improvement.
🔻 How organizations unintentionally create resistance to change.
🔻 What leaders must unlearn before Lean can truly take hold.
🔻 Why real improvement requires changing management thinking, not just processes.
🔗 Connect with Bob Emiliani on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-emiliani-660a72170/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Dan Barata on The Leadership Discipline Missing In Most Transformations
Standard work doesn’t have to stifle creativity: Dan Barata connects improvement with trust and human connection.
How do you build a continuous improvement culture that actually sticks, especially across large, complex organizations? In this episode, Keith Norris talks with Dan Barata, Corporate Director of Continuous Improvement at East Penn Manufacturing. With decades of experience across manufacturing, healthcare, medical devices, and pharmaceuticals, Dan shares why CI must start with people, not tools, and how leaders can create the space, safety, and opportunity for real improvement to happen.
🔻 How Dan’s early path in industrial engineering shaped his people-first approach to continuous improvement.
🔻 Why training alone does not equal empowerment and what leaders must do next.
🔻 The importance of building human connection before introducing process improvement.
🔻 How failing forward is different from simply failing and why not all failures are created equal.
🔻 Why standard work is the foundation for improvement and not the enemy of creativity.
🔻 How leaders can create psychological safety so people feel comfortable trying new ideas.
🔻 Why engagement and alignment matter as much as cost savings when measuring CI impact.
🔻 Dan’s guidance on utilization, capacity, and creating time for both improvement and people development.
🔻 Why coaching and mentoring matter more than running a few isolated improvement projects.
🔗 Connect with Dan Barata on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-j-barata-pe-mba/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Janine LeaBarrett on Building Resilient Teams That Deliver
When conditions get tough, clarity matters: Janine LeaBarrett explores how resilient teams solve problems together.
How do you build resilience and continuous improvement into your life and work, no matter the challenge? In this episode, Keith Norris talks with Janine LeaBarrett, a governance and engineering leader whose career spans mining, construction, local government, and five seasons in Antarctica. From surviving a life-changing accident to leading teams in some of the harshest conditions on earth, Janine shares practical lessons on clarity, safety, and why continuous improvement matters everywhere.
🔻 How Janine became an electrician in a male-dominated field and developed a mindset for continuous improvement.
🔻 What five seasons in Antarctica taught her about teamwork, safety, and engineering in extreme conditions.
🔻 How surviving a major accident shaped her resilience and philosophy of “get on with it.”
🔻 Why she believes continuous improvement is essential in every industry.
🔻 Her leadership advice for new supervisors: seek input from everyone and ensure clarity.
🔻 Why the Five Whys remains her go-to problem-solving tool.
🔻 Why resilience matters: “If you can’t bounce back, you can’t get stronger.”
🔗 Connect with Janine on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janineleabarrett0427244234/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
📘 Buy the book Impact: https://thatimpactbook.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Chris Hayes on How to Wire Your Organization for Excellence
Improvement starts in the brain: Chris Hayes explores how safety, clarity, and small wins build engagement.
What if the key to sustaining improvement has less to do with tools and more to do with the brain itself? In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Chris Hayes, CEO of Impact Performance Solutions, Shingo Licensed Affiliate, ASQ Fellow, and author of Wired for Excellence: Harnessing Brain Science for Organizational Success.
🔻 Why improvement wins fade and how the Shingo Model strengthens sustainment
🔻 The brain science of change and how the amygdala triggers threat responses
🔻 Why logic alone never drives change and why people need safety and clarity
🔻 The five domains of the B.R.A.I.N. Model and how they shape culture
🔻 How leaders can reduce threat, spark reward responses, and boost engagement
🔻 How clarity, communication rhythms, and small wins support sustainment
🔗 Connect with Chris Hayes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christiannahayes/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Visit Impact Performance Solutions: https://impactperformancesolutions.com/
📘 Buy "Wired For Excellence: Harnessing Brain Science For Organizational Success" on Amazon: https://a.co/d/e4mslDn
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Adriana Girdler on Habits of Great Project Managers
New technology won’t rescue an unclear project: Adriana Girdler shows why alignment and a strong charter matter.
What actually makes projects succeed, and why do so many fail before they even begin?
In this episode, Keith sits down with Adriana Girdler, President & Chief Efficiency Officer at CornerStone Dynamics, Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt, PMP, productivity expert, and one of the top project management voices in North America. With over 260K YouTube subscribers and 20+ years leading organizational transformation, Adriana breaks down what organizations get wrong about project work and why clarity, alignment, and methodology matter more than any tool.
🔻 Adriana’s unexpected start in productivity and PM (thanks, Franklin Planner)
🔻 Why “accidental project managers” are everywhere, and why they struggle
🔻 The real definition of a project: start date, end date, deliverable
🔻 Why technology is just a tool, not the solution to productivity
🔻 What every charter must include (and why it’s your navigation system)
🔻 The three levels of project roles: sponsors, steering committees & SMEs
🔻 How project managers must shift into strategic leadership roles
🔻 The danger of siloed work and why PMs must be the connective tissue
🔻 Why organizations unintentionally set teams up for failure
🔻 Project management in the age of AI, what changes, what doesn’t
🔗 Connect with Adriana Girdler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianagirdler/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Visit CornerStone Dynamics:https://www.cornerstonedynamics.com/
🔗 Explore the SLAY Project Management Course:https://adrianagirdler.thinkific.com/pages/slaypm
🔗 Learn about the SLAY Corporate Program:https://www.cornerstonedynamics.com/project-management-corporate-program/
🔗 Watch Adriana’s YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@AdrianaGirdler
🔗 Follow CornerStone Dynamics on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/cornerstone-dynamics-inc/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Tina Agustiady on What It Really Takes to Build a Culture of Excellence
Excellence isn’t a training certificate: Tina Agustiady connects people-first leadership with everyday improvement.
What does it really take to build a culture of excellence? In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Tina Agustiady, award-winning continuous improvement leader, author, and Vice President at J.P. Morgan Chase. With decades of experience leading Lean and Six Sigma transformations across major organizations, Tina shares what it means to create lasting improvement by putting people first.
🔻 Why culture, not tools, is the true foundation of Lean and Six Sigma success
🔻 How to make training programs hands-on, relevant, and results-driven
🔻 The role of emotional intelligence and humility in effective leadership
🔻 What companies get wrong about continuous improvement and how to fix it
🔻 How change management and empowerment fuel the next generation of leaders
🔻 Why continuous improvement is like breathing, if you stop, you will not last
🔗 Connect with Tina Agustiady on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tina-agustiady/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Lorenzo Long on Making Sustainability Everyone's Job
Bring sustainability off the wish list: Lorenzo Long connects small pilots and meaningful measures with operational change.
How can sustainability become more than a buzzword and drive real improvement? In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Lorenzo Long, Sustainability Coordinator for Ogden City, to explore how cities can turn environmental goals into practical, measurable change. From energy efficiency to policy design, Lorenzo shares how small wins and smart framing create lasting impact.
🔻 How Ogden City is embedding sustainability into its long-term planning and daily operations
🔻 Why "framing" matters and how changing the language from sustainability to resilience builds buy-in
🔻 How to measure what matters with the KPIs behind Ogden’s Energy Wise Strategic Plan
🔻 Lessons from Weber State’s revolving sustainability fund that pays for itself
🔻 How small-scale tests like an electric vehicle pilot program can spark large-scale change
🔻 Why every organization, big or small, should start with one sustainability champion
🔗 Connect with Lorenzo Long on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorenzolong/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Pete Gough on What Great Leaders Do Differently
Great leaders don’t delegate away transformation: Pete Gough explores executive involvement that makes improvement stick.
What does it take to build a culture where improvement sticks? In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Pete Gough, retired transformation leader and former head of Business Improvement at major mining organizations including Rio Tinto, Newcrest, and Goldfields. Over his decades-long career, Pete helped shape hundreds of improvement projects, mentored future leaders, and proved that true transformation starts with people, not tools.
🔻 Turning Lean, Six Sigma, and change leadership into one practical “MMA-style” approach to improvement
🔻 Why executive visibility and genuine engagement are the foundation for lasting cultural change
🔻 How to design training programs that grow future leaders, not just project managers
🔻 The role of business improvement teams in connecting strategy, operations, and people
🔻 How to quantify hard versus soft savings and set realistic, stretch targets for improvement
🔻 Lessons from leading CI across global mining sites and cultures
🔗 Connect with Pete Gough on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-gough-86b03617/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Steve Burkle on What Makes Improvement Efforts Succeed (or Fail)
Why do some improvement efforts take root? Steve Burkle connects listening, daily huddles, and meaningful measures.
What makes improvement efforts succeed or fail? In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Steve Burkle, Global Director of Operational Excellence, to explore the real factors that determine whether continuous improvement takes root or fades away. With more than 30 years leading OpEx transformations, Steve shares lessons learned from the front lines, what it takes to sustain change, develop problem solvers, and create a culture where improvement never stops.
🔺 Why listening, not lecturing, is the most underrated leadership skill in continuous improvement
🔺 How to turn daily management systems and tiered huddles into the backbone of a thriving CI culture
🔺 The difference between doing improvement to people and doing it with them
🔺 What separates quick-win projects from true operational excellence
🔺 How to measure what really matters, so data drives behavior, not just dashboards
🔗 Connect with Steve Burkle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-burkle-lssbb-11a08a78/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Darren Dolcemascolo on Coaching Leaders to Build Problem Solvers
Don’t just solve problems: Darren Dolcemascolo explores coaching that helps leaders build everyday problem-solvers.
What separates companies that try Lean from those that live it? In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Darren Dolcemascolo, co-founder and managing partner of EMS Consulting Group, to talk about what it really takes to create sustainable improvement. From his early career in operations to helping hundreds of organizations transform through Lean, Darren shares hard-earned lessons on leadership, engagement, and how to keep the momentum going when improvement fatigue sets in.
🔺 Why culture, not tools, determines the success of Lean initiatives
🔺 How to teach problem-solving as a daily practice, not a one-time project
🔺 Why humility and curiosity are the real superpowers of Lean leadership
🔺 How to balance structure and flexibility in CI programs
🔺 What to look for when assessing whether your organization is ready for Lean transformation
🔗 Connect with Darren Dolcemascolo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrendolcemascolo/
🔗 Explore EMS Consulting Group: https://emsstrategies.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Keith Norris on Lessons In Continuous Improvement
Thirty conversations, one recurring lesson: Keith Norris reflects on why improvement depends on people, culture, and daily habits.
In this special 30th episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris looks back on the most powerful lessons shared across thirty conversations with leaders, thinkers, and change-makers in the world of continuous improvement.
From the shop floor to the boardroom, these stories reveal a simple truth, improvement isn’t about tools or projects, but about people, culture, leadership, and daily habits that make progress sustainable.
🔻 Improvement starts with people
🔻 Culture is the real competitive advantage
🔻 Improvement is a team sport, and leaders create the conditions for change
🔻 Improvement is a habit, not a project
Whether you’re a CI professional, a people leader, or someone looking to reignite their own improvement journey, this episode is a reflection on what makes continuous improvement stick, and why it always begins with the human side of change.
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Jared Thatcher on Cost Improvement That Doesn't Burn People Out
Cut costs, not morale: Jared Thatcher shows how lean improvement can strengthen your people.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Jared Thatcher, Lean Business Consultant, founder of the Global Lean Summit, and author of Parenting the Lean Way, to explore how companies can drive continuous cost improvement without draining their people.
🔺 Why Lean should never stand for "less employees are needed"
🔺 How to use Lean to build morale, not fear
🔺 The role of leadership in protecting improvement culture
🔺 Practical examples of cost savings that boost engagement
🔺 How to apply Lean thinking to every part of life, from the office to parenting
Jared shares real-world stories from his time at Daimler Trucks, Alaska Airlines, and more, showing how respect for people and smart systems thinking lead to sustainable results.
🔗 Connect with Jared Thatcher on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredthatcher/
🔗 Explore the Global Lean Summit: https://globalleansummit.com
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Luca Guadagnuolo on Leading Lean Across Cultures
Lean crosses borders, but culture matters: Luca Guadagnuolo shares lessons from nine European plants.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, Keith Norris sits down with Luca Giovanni Guadagnuolo, a seasoned consultant and Lean transformation leader with decades of experience driving operational excellence across Europe. Luca shares how his journey began at Whirlpool, why he was drawn to Lean from the start, and what it takes to align people across cultures, industries, and leadership levels.
🔻 How to engage frontline teams with A3 thinking and problem-solving
🔻 Why leadership’s role is to support, not control
🔻 Lessons from rolling out Lean across nine European plants
🔻 How to sustain cultural change long after the consultant leaves
🔻 Why continuous improvement is as natural as drinking water
Whether you’re leading a factory, managing a team, or guiding strategy at the executive level, Luca’s insights will help you see Lean as more than tools, it’s about respect, delegation, and unlocking human potential.
🔗 Connect with Luca Guadagnuolo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucaguadagnuolo/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Bruce Hamilton on Toast Kaizen and the Power of Teaching Lean Through Story
What can making toast teach you about lean? Bruce Hamilton shows why simple stories spark improvement.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, Keith Norris sits down with Bruce Hamilton, the legendary “Toast Kaizen” teacher, to explore how storytelling can unlock a culture of continuous improvement. Bruce shares lessons from decades of Lean leadership, why respect for people is the true foundation of TPS, and how even small, inch wide and mile deep improvements can transform an organization. From poka yoke to AI, he shows why the future of Lean is still rooted in everyday learning and respect.
🔻 The story behind Toast Kaizen and why it still resonates today
🔻 The four Lean philosophies that never change: customer first, people as the most valuable resource, go see, and kaizen every day
🔻 Why inch wide, mile deep is the smartest way to build momentum
🔻 How poka yoke turns mistakes into smarter systems
🔻 Where AI fits in and why it should be AI plus people
👉 Listen now and take one small improvement idea from this episode to put into action today.
🔗 Connect with Bruce Hamilton on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-hamilton-a09a4616/
🔗 Explore GBMP: https://www.gbmp.org/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Cindy Deekitwong on How to Inspire Teams and Connect With Customers
Better questions, better listening, better customer value: Cindy Deekitwong takes improvement beyond the factory floor.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Cindy Deekitwong, a global sales and marketing executive with over 20 years of experience across specialty chemicals, semiconductors, healthcare, and packaging.
Cindy explains why Lean is more than cost cutting. It is a culture of problem solving and continuous improvement. She highlights the importance of asking the right questions, listening to understand, and motivating teams by starting with “why.” Along the way, she offers powerful examples from manufacturing, medical devices, and packaging that show how small changes can create outsized impact.
🔻 Why value added vs. non value added thinking applies everywhere from gas stations to global supply chains
🔻 How “small is the new big” when it comes to culture change and quick wins
🔻 The leadership shift from telling to empowering and why listening is the first step
🔻 Why continuous improvement must expand beyond the shop floor into sales, marketing, and innovation
Whether you are an executive balancing growth and culture, a CI leader coaching teams, or simply curious about how to empower people for lasting improvement, Cindy’s insights will inspire you to look at your work through a new lens.
🔗 Connect with Cindy Deekitwong on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindy-deekitwong/
🔗 Explore Aperia Corporation: https://aperia.com/
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Bob Luna on EQ, NPS, and the Metrics That Drive Real Improvement
Measuring everything won’t fix everything: Bob Luna connects the right metrics with the human side of improvement.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, Keith Norris sits down with Bob Luna, a leader who has scaled businesses from $3 million to $500 million across industries like medical devices, pharmaceuticals, and even Amazon and Procter & Gamble. With over 30 years of experience, Bob shares why emotional intelligence (EQ) and extreme ownership are just as critical to improvement as value stream maps and throughput metrics.
Bob breaks down how to cut through the noise of measuring “30 or 40 things” to focus on the few metrics that truly drive results, like cycle time, defects, and Net Promoter Score (NPS). He also explains how leaders can prepare their teams emotionally and culturally to actually embrace process improvement, not resist it.
🔻 Why customer feedback through NPS can’t just be collected, it has to drive action
🔻 How EQ and ownership accelerate Lean and CI initiatives across every level of an organization
🔻 The hidden cost of poor processes (and why it often eats up 30% of revenue)
🔻 Practical ways leaders can simplify metrics, build capability, and avoid firefighting
Whether you’re leading a team of 20 or a company of 20,000, Bob’s insights show how the right mix of people, process, and metrics can turn improvement into real, sustainable growth.
🔗 Connect with Bob Luna on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-luna-2b36b68/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Monika Mangla on How CI is Evolving In The Age of AI
AI promises smarter decisions: Monika Mangla explores the data and people foundations that make them possible.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, Keith Norris sits down with Monika Mangla, Managing Director at Accenture and a global leader in finance and digital transformation, to explore how continuous improvement is evolving in the age of AI.
From predictive maintenance in oil and gas to forward-looking financial planning, Monika outlines real-world examples of AI in action, while also addressing the foundations organizations must get right: strong data governance, people readiness, and a culture that empowers decision-making at every level.
🔻 Why AI is accelerating the pace of continuous improvement
🔻 How finance and operations leaders can build stronger cross-functional alignment
🔻 The critical role of data and governance in making AI valuable
🔻 Why employees should see AI as an assistant, not a replacement
Whether you’re a CI professional, a finance leader, or simply curious about the future of work, this conversation will challenge how you think about improvement in the AI era.
🔗 Connect with Monika Mangla on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monika-mangla-cfa-320a52/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Christine Lavoie on How Great Leaders Build a Culture of Improvement
Great leaders don’t just demand improvement: Christine Lavoie shows how curiosity and removing roadblocks help it thrive.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, Keith Norris sits down with Christine Lavoie, Lean Six Sigma Black Belt and Operational Excellence leader, to explore how great leaders create a culture where continuous improvement becomes part of everyday work. Christine shares how curiosity, empowerment, and the right tools help organizations unlock the full potential of their people.
Drawing from her journey across industries and her current role at Safelite AutoGlass, Christine highlights what it takes to move beyond process changes and truly build a mindset of improvement. She explains the role leaders play in asking better questions, removing roadblocks, and giving teams the space to solve problems that matter most.
🔻 Why continuous improvement is a mindset, not just a methodology
🔻 The project roles that make real change sustainable
🔻 How leaders can size work between Kaizen and DMAIC effectively
🔻 Practical strategies to sustain change for the long term
Whether you are leading a frontline team or driving enterprise-wide transformation, this conversation shows how leaders at every level can build trust, alignment, and results through a culture of improvement.
🔗 Connect with Christine Lavoie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-lavoie-lssbb-2878095b/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Heather Everton on Building Alignment Without Micromanagement
Stay aligned without micromanaging: Heather Everton shows how daily standups build trust and accountability.
In this episode of KPI Fireside, Keith Norris sits down with Heather Everton, Vice President of Product at Merrick Bank, to explore how daily standups can transform the way teams work. Heather shares why standups are not just another meeting, but a powerful ritual for building trust, creating alignment, and driving clarity without falling into the trap of micromanagement.
From her experience in both small startups and large enterprises, Heather highlights the simplicity and discipline of a good standup, the questions every team should ask, and the psychological benefits of connection and accountability. She also discusses how tools like Standup Alice help make standups more effective across remote, hybrid, and global teams.
🔻 Why a 10-minute standup can replace 10 meetings
🔻 How standups build trust and autonomy inside teams
🔻 The role of rituals in creating culture and alignment
🔻 Practical tips for running effective standups in any industry
Whether you are leading a software team, managing operations, or looking for ways to improve connection and performance, this conversation shows how standups can bring clarity and momentum to your organization.
📚 Learn more about Standup Alice: https://www.standupalice.com/
🔗 Connect with Heather Everton on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-everton-a4205065/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Dr. Keith Clinkscales on The Human Side of Performance Management
Performance is personal: Dr. Keith Clinkscales explores metrics and leadership that empower rather than discourage.
In this episode, Dr. Keith Clinkscales shares his remarkable journey from electrical engineer and Lean Six Sigma consultant to Director of Strategic Planning and Performance Management at Palm Beach County. With insight shaped by decades of experience in both private industry and public service, Dr. Clinkscales unpacks the real driver of performance: how people feel, think, and show up to work.
From building metrics that empower rather than punish, to reshaping toxic cultures and reviving employee engagement, this episode is a masterclass in managing the human side of performance.
🔻 Why attitude might be the most underrated performance tool
🔻 How toxic cultures get created, and how leaders c a n change them
🔻 What public sector teams taught Dr. Clinkscales about legacy systems and lasting change
🔻 How to create cross-department collaboration in siloed organizations
🔻 How to tell if its time to stay and lead c h a n g e or time to move on
This one is packed with wisdom, energy, and real-world leadership lessons that will stick with you long after the final minute.
📚 Read "Your Attitude Is Your Breakthrough" : https://a.co/d/4EoeW33
🔗 Connect with Dr. Keith Clinkscales on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkeithclinkscales/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Ken Snyder on What Every Executive Needs to Understand About CI
Excellence starts with executive behavior: Ken Snyder explores the principles that help improvement thrive across an organization.
What does it really take to build a culture of continuous improvement that lasts?
In this episode, Keith sits down with Ken Snyder, Executive Director of the Shingo Institute, to unpack the leadership behaviors, cultural systems, and guiding principles that separate companies who talk about improvement from those who actually achieve it.
From Toyota’s legacy to modern AI integration, Ken shares hard-earned lessons from five decades of experience in global manufacturing, higher education, and enterprise excellence.
🔻 Why most CI efforts fail to sustain, and how to avoid idea killers
🔻 The three most important drivers of lasting results
🔻 What executives often overlook about culture, systems, and strategy
🔻 How to move from isolated success to enterprise-wide alignment
🔻 The surprising role of humility in high-performing organizations
Whether you're leading from the boardroom or the shop floor, this episode will challenge the way you think about improvement, and equip you to lead it better.
📚 Learn more about the Shingo Institute: https://shingo.org/
🔗 Connect with Ken on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/snyderken/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Tyson Heaton on The Human Side of Lean Transformation
Lean starts with people, not tools: Tyson Heaton shows how trust brings hidden problems into the open.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Tyson Heaton, Senior Director of Co-Learning and Business Strategy at Lean Enterprise Institute, to explore why the most powerful part of Lean isn't the tools, it's the people.
Drawing from his experiences at OC Tanner and LEI, Tyson shares how his perspective shifted from technical solutions to human capability, and why that shift is essential for lasting transformation. From the value of flow to the role of daily management systems, he unpacks how true improvement happens when you build trust, expose problems, and empower teams to solve them.
🔻 Why capability beats quick fixes
🔻 How “no problems” is the biggest problem of all
🔻 The link between lean systems, flow, and human well-being
🔻 How AI might become a third coach in Lean development
🔻 Why frustration should trigger curiosity, not blame
Whether you're deep into Lean or just getting started, this episode will challenge how you think about improvement and why it has to start with people.
📚 Learn more about the Lean Enterprise Institute: https://www.lean.org/
🔗 Connect with Tyson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyson-heaton-94171138/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Kevin Clay on The Belt System: What It Means & What It Doesn't
A belt isn’t proof of problem-solving: Kevin Clay explores what Lean Six Sigma credentials should really mean.
Is your belt more than just a piece of paper?
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Kevin Clay, Master Black Belt and founder of Six Sigma Development Solutions, to break down the real meaning behind Lean Six Sigma belt certifications.
From white to black belt, Kevin shares why the value of a belt isn’t in the color or the test, but in the capability it represents. Whether you're an aspiring Green Belt, a hiring manager, or a CI leader designing your internal program, this conversation reveals what it really takes to build problem solvers, not just test takers.
🎙️ In this episode:
🔻 The difference between a belt and actual capability
🔻 Why “testing out” isn’t enough, and what to do instead
🔻 What white, yellow, green, and black belts really mean
🔻 How to build training that creates real change agents
🔻 What to look for when hiring certified practitioners
👀 Thinking about certification, or hiring someone who is? Don’t miss this one.
📚 Buy Kevin’s book Why They Fail: https://sixsigmadsi.com/why-they-fail/
🔗 Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ssdsi/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth on Leading Through Obeya and Metrics That Drive
Are your metrics monitoring or driving? Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth explores Obeya and visual leadership in Part 2.
This is Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth, diving deeper into Obeya, visual leadership, and metrics that drive action. Missed Part 1? Check out Episode 16: The Visual Language That Transforms Work.
In this second installment, Gwen and host Keith Norris explore one of the most misapplied tools in the Lean toolbox: the Obeya Room. Together, they unpack what makes it powerful, where most efforts go wrong, and why visual metrics should do more than just “monitor”, they should drive.
🔻 The real purpose of Obeya (hint: it’s not about adding more dashboards)
🔻 Why digital tools often fail to deliver behavior change
🔻 The neuroscience of “touching” data, and how it drives accountability
🔻 The difference between metrics that monitor vs. metrics that drive
🔻 Gwen’s “10 Doorways” framework for building a truly visual workplace
🔻 How visuality grows self-leaders and transforms organizational culture
Whether you’re an executive, CI leader, or team supervisor, this episode offers a blueprint for using visual thinking and Obeya leadership to make strategy visible, and results sustainable.
🔗 Learn more about the Visual Workplace: https://visualworkplace.com/
🔗 Connect with Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gwendolyngalsworth/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth on The Visual Language That Transforms Work
Make work speak for itself: Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth explores visual language beyond 5S in Part 1.
This is Part 1 of a special two-part conversation with Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth on the power of visual thinking to transform work, culture, and leadership. Don’t miss Part 2 in Episode 17, check it out here when you're ready.
In this episode, host Keith Norris welcomes back visual workplace pioneer Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth for a rich, wide-ranging conversation on the language of visual work, and how it transforms people, processes, and entire organizations.
🔻 What “I-driven” visuality really means, and why it matters
🔻 The two questions that drive every visual solution
🔻 Why so many 5S programs fail, and how to go deeper
🔻 The human side of improvement: how visuality reduces stress and unlocks growth
🔻 Why visual thinking is not just a tool, but a language
Whether you're an operator, supervisor, or executive, this episode will change the way you see your workplace, and how it speaks back.
🔗 Learn more about the Visual Workplace: https://visualworkplace.com/
🔗 Connect with Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gwendolyngalsworth/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Randy Kesterson on Explaining Lean Through Visual Storytelling
Make lean easier to understand: Randy Kesterson uses cartoons and visual storytelling to bring improvement to life.
In this episode, Keith Norris reconnects with Randy Kesterson, Lean strategist, consultant, and creator of the Lean Journey cartoon series, to explore how visual storytelling can simplify, clarify, and challenge the way we think about Lean.
🔻 A deep dive into The Lean Journey: A cartoon series inspired by the Star Wars Franchise
🔻 Closing the gap between Lean theory and everyday reality
🔻 The role of AI in Lean thinking and predictive problem-solving
🔻 How tiered meetings drive accountability
🔻 Making Hoshin Kanri work through simplified strategic alignment
If you've ever struggled to get your team to “get it,” this episode offers a fresh take on how to communicate Lean with impact, and maybe even a little laughter.
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Connect with Randy Kesterson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randykesterson/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Spencer Maybee on What Lean Looks Like From The Start
Where does lean begin? Spencer Maybee shares small improvements from a family-owned pipe fabrication business.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Spencer Maybee, Vice President at Western Pipe Fabrication and second-generation small business leader, to explore what Lean looks like when you’re just getting started.
🔻 Why Lean clicked the first time Spencer heard it explained through welding
🔻 What it takes to push change inside a multi-generational family business
🔻 How small changes like shared spreadsheets made a big impact
🔻 What respect for people looks like
🔻 The real-life tension between tradition, growth, and new ideas
Whether you're building something from scratch or helping a small team get better every day, this episode is proof that Lean starts wherever you are, with the problems right in front of you.
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Connect with Spencer Maybee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-maybee/
🔗 Explore Western Pipe Fabrication: https://www.wpfiut.com/
🔗 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Andreas Mader on Being Better Tomorrow Than Today
Better tomorrow beats perfect someday: Andreas Mader explores simpler systems and leadership that serves.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Andreas Mader, CEO of Aperia Corporation and longtime Lean transformation leader, to explore how real improvement happens: not through perfection, but through progress.
From global manufacturing to executive coaching, Andreas shares stories and insights on building CI cultures that sustain, developing leaders who stay curious, and creating systems that don’t just improve processes, but people.
🔻 Why sustainment is the missing piece in most CI programs
🔻 The one mindset shift that makes improvement stick
🔻 How to create simplicity in the face of complexity
🔻 What it really means to lead through service
🔻 Why being better every day beats being perfect someday
🔻 The difference between solving a problem and owning it
Whether you're on the shop floor or in the C-suite, this episode is a reminder that real change starts with a single question: how can we be better tomorrow than today?
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Connect with Andreas Mader on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akmader/
🔗 Explore Aperia Corporation: https://aperia.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Jesse Rendon on Turning Frontline Teams Into Change Leaders
From loading trucks to leading change: Jesse Rendon shows how frontline teams become confident problem-solvers.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Jesse Rendon, CI leader and Lean Six Sigma Black Belt, to unpack what it really takes to turn frontline employees into empowered agents of change.
Jesse shares how he went from loading trucks to building enterprise-wide CI systems, and why believing in people’s potential is more powerful than any tool or certification.
🔻 How to turn operators into problem solvers
🔻 Why coaching beats training every time
🔻 What happens when leaders truly listen to their teams
🔻 The role of “Lean Squads” in scaling improvement
🔻 Why your frontline knows the solutions, but only if they’re invited
🔻 How to build belief, not just compliance
Whether you’re leading from the boardroom or the shop floor, this episode is a blueprint for building cultures that improve from the inside out.
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Connect with Jesse Rendon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-rendon-lssbb/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Catherine McDonald on The Habit of Curiosity That Drives Real Improvement
Curiosity is a leadership habit: Catherine McDonald explores the questions and conversations that unlock improvement.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Catherine McDonald, leadership coach, lean consultant, and expert in organizational behavior, to explore why curiosity and reflection are the true building blocks of continuous improvement and effective leadership.
Drawing from her experience coaching leaders across industries, from hospitality to healthcare, Catherine breaks down how small habits, intentional space, and respectful conversations drive real, lasting change.
🔻 Why most leaders misunderstand "respect", and how to lead with the real thing
🔻 How to create space for improvement (without losing productivity)
🔻 The problem with performative leadership, and how to go deeper
🔻 Why one-on-ones are the most underused tool in leadership
🔻 What it means to be proactive, not just reactive, as a leader
🔻 How to lead people, not just manage results
Whether you’re leading a team or developing yourself as a leader, this episode offers actionable insight on how to lead better by thinking differently.
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Connect with Catherine McDonald on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-mcdonald-b6157210a/
🔗 Learn more about MCD Consulting: https://mcdconsulting.ie/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Ted Iverson on Sustaining Results Through Better Leadership
Results that last need leaders who grow leaders: Ted Iverson explores the habits behind sustained improvement.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Ted Iverson, veteran transformation leader, Shingo Prize examiner, and former McKinsey expert, to unpack what it really takes to sustain results through leadership, not just tools or tactics.
🔻 Why cutting costs is the lowest form of consulting (and what to do instead)
🔻 How to build self-funding CI systems that actually last
🔻 The leadership behaviors that turn stars into star builders
🔻 How Leader Standard Work drives cultural change (not just compliance)
🔻 What horseback riding and leadership have in common
🔻 How to set goals so ambitious they force people to work differently, not harder
Whether you're just starting your CI journey or leading transformation at scale, this episode is packed with practical insights on how to lead better.
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Connect with Ted Iverson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ted-iverson-47580311/
🔗 Explore Iverson Consulting Group: https://www.iversonconsultinggroup.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Matt Kroll on Structured Problem Solving That Scales
DMAIC or PDCA? Matt Kroll makes structured problem-solving practical, even when resources are tight.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Matt Kroll, Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt and founder of Chalmers Street Consulting, to explore how structured problem solving can be scaled across teams, industries, and maturity levels, without overcomplicating it.
🔻 DMAIC vs. PDCA, and how to know which one fits
🔻 How to make Gemba walks work beyond the factory floor
🔻 Why waste walks are still one of the most underused CI tools
🔻 The real reason metrics fail (and how to make them stick)
🔻 What makes CI work in the mid-market, where resources are tight
🔻 How to lead improvement efforts without freaking people out
Whether you're new to Lean or deep into your CI journey, this episode offers practical, real-world strategies to build momentum, and results, without burning out your team.
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Connect with Matt Kroll on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewrkroll/
🔗 Explore Chalmers Street Consulting: https://www.chalmersst.com/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Will Miller, PhD on Leading Change Without Losing Trust
People resist being changed: Dr. Will Miller explores how to lead improvement without losing trust.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Dr. Will Miller, Associate VP for Continuous Improvement and Institutional Performance at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, to explore what it really takes to lead meaningful change inside complex, high-stakes environments.
🔻 Why people don’t resist change, they resist being changed
🔻 How to lead innovation in a bureaucracy-heavy environment
🔻 What higher ed can teach us about tailoring CI to your audience
🔻 Why culture clashes derail change, and how to avoid them
🔻 Metrics that matter (and how to stop tracking the wrong stuff)
🔻 The secret to making compliance feel empowering, not draining
Whether you’re coaching faculty, managing a team, or trying to modernize a legacy system, this episode will help you lead smarter and change better, without losing the people you need most.
🔗 Learn more about KPI Fire: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗 Connect with Will Miller, PhD on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willmillerphd/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth on The Power of Workplace Visuality
Visuality is more than a lean tool: Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth shows how it reconnects people with purpose.
In this episode, Keith Norris is joined by Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth, visual workplace pioneer, Shingo Institute faculty fellow, and author of Visual Workplace and Work That Makes Sense. Together, they dive deep into the world of “visuality,” the often misunderstood backbone of operational excellence that enables clarity, flow, and empowerment at every level of the organization.
🔻 Why visuality is not just a tool, but a strategic intervention
🔻 The real difference between visual management and visual performance
🔻 How organizations unintentionally rob people of purpose (and how to give it back)
🔻 The “I-driven” workplace and the two core questions behind meaningful work
🔻 How flow, critical thinking, and “teaching without answers” transform teams
🔻 Why metrics without leadership are just decoration, and what real leaders must do
Dr. Galsworth shares practical wisdom and field-tested insights to help leaders, coaches, and operators unlock the power of visual thinking, and transform their workplaces into environments that communicate clearly and drive continuous improvement.
🔗 Learn more about the Visual Workplace: https://visualworkplace.com/
🔗 Connect with Dr. Gwendolyn Galsworth on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gwendolyngalsworth/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Dr. Alan Barnard on Solving the Right Problems with the Theory Of Constraints
Stop trying to fix everything: Dr. Alan Barnard shows how to find the constraint that matters.
In this episode, Keith Norris sits down with Dr. Alan Barnard, decision scientist, CEO of Goldratt Research Labs, and one of the world’s leading experts on the Theory of Constraints, to explore how organizations can solve the right problems, not just the most obvious ones. Drawing on decades of research, consulting, and direct work with Dr. Eli Goldratt, Alan shares practical insights into how TOC helps companies focus their improvement efforts where it matters most.
🔻 Why most systems fail by solving the wrong problems first
🔻 How the Theory of Constraints reveals the real bottleneck blocking progress
🔻 The five types of constraints every system must manage
🔻 Why “focus” beats “fix everything” in continuous improvement
🔻 How to apply TOC principles to flow, decision-making, and strategy
🔻 Why finding the constraint is the first step to making better, faster decisions
Whether you're leading improvement initiatives, scaling a business, or simply trying to move faster without chaos, this episode delivers a practical, thought-provoking framework for solving the right problems, and unlocking exponential impact.
🔗 Learn more about Dr. Barnard: https://goldrattresearchlabs.com/
🔗 Connect with Dr. Barnard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dralanbarnard/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Randy Kesterson on Making Strategy Stick with Hoshin Kanri
Don’t let strategy gather dust: Randy Kesterson connects Hoshin Kanri and change management to execution.
In this episode, Keith Norris is joined by Randy Kesterson, executive coach, transformation leader, and author of The Basics of Hoshin Kanri, to explore how companies can finally make their strategy stick, by linking it to execution, culture, and change management that works.
🔻 Why most strategic plans fail (and how to focus on what really matters)
🔻 The power of Hoshin Kanri to align teams and cut through initiative overload
🔻 What leaders miss when they treat Lean as a tool, not a business enabler
🔻 How to overcome resistance to change with ADKAR and real buy-in
🔻 Why cultural change needs structure, not slogans
🔻 How to deploy strategy across teams without another binder on the shelf
Randy shares lessons from decades leading operations across aerospace, defense, and manufacturing, plus how change management and Hoshin Kanri helped him bridge the gap between strategy and execution in both corporate and consulting roles.
🔗 Learn more about Randy: https://www.kestersongroup.com
🔗 Connect with Randy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randykesterson/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Jared Raggozine on Turning Frontline Ideas Into Big Wins
Go beyond the suggestion box: Jared Ragozzine shows how frontline ideas become everyday improvements.
In this episode, Keith Norris is joined by Jared Ragozzine, Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt, to explore how companies can turn everyday frontline ideas into real, measurable wins, and build a culture of continuous improvement that actually sticks.
🔻 Why suggestion boxes and Kaizen events aren’t enough to sustain improvement
🔻 How the A6 card helps teams capture, prioritize, and act on quick wins
🔻 The key to unlocking frontline engagement (without becoming the bottleneck)
🔻 What leaders must do to support CI, from approving time to doing a Gemba walk
🔻 Why visual management beats spreadsheets when it comes to momentum
🔻 How to build real CI habits with simple rituals, not massive rollouts
Jared shares practical strategies and real-world stories from nearly a decade of coaching teams, from startups to multi-site manufacturers, and shows how a simple 4x6 card is helping frontline employees everywhere turn their ideas into lasting impact.
🔗 Learn more about Engage Forward: https://engage-forward.com
🔗 Connect with Jared on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredragozzine
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Kevin Clay on Why Lean Fails (and How to Get It Right)
Training belts isn’t enough: Kevin Clay reveals why lean fails and what makes improvement stick.
In this episode, Keith Norris is joined by Kevin Clay, founder of Six Sigma Development Solutions and author of Why They Fail, to explore why most Lean and CI efforts fall short, and how to build a culture where they actually thrive.
🔻 Why most Lean initiatives fail (and how to avoid the common traps)
🔻 The mistake of training belts without building the right infrastructure
🔻 What executives must do to make CI stick, from KPIs to project prioritization
🔻 Why “Go find a project” is a sign of failure
🔻 The role of a “project hopper” and how to align improvement with business goals
🔻 How CI drives real career growth, and how to build programs that last
Kevin shares hard-earned insights from decades of experience training thousands of professionals across industries, from the Army to aerospace, and helps us see how small changes in structure, mindset, and leadership can transform outcomes.
📚 Buy Kevin’s book Why They Fail: https://sixsigmadsi.com/why-they-fail/
🔗 Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ssdsi/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithnorris/
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Andrei Anca on How To Build A CI Culture That Actually Works
You don’t need a title to lead improvement: Andrei Anca explores what makes a CI culture work.
In this episode, Keith Norris is joined by Andrei Anca, author of Lead From Any Seat, to unpack what actually makes CI work, and why most companies get it wrong.
🔻 Why you don’t need a title to lead improvement
🔻 How CI programs lose momentum and how to fix it
🔻 The difference between problem pointers, finders, and solvers
🔻 Why most metrics are misleading, and how to measure what matters
🔻 How AI and change management will shape the future of CI
🔻 The one root cause mistake nearly every team makes
Andrei shares real-world stories and tactics you can use today, whether you're in finance, ops, manufacturing, or tech.
📚 Get the book + free templates: www.leadfromanyseat.com
🔗 Connect with Andrei on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreianca/
🎙 Hosted by Keith Norris: linkedin.com/in/keithnorris
🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and everywhere you get your podcasts.

Nick Katko on How Lean Accounting Unlocks Real ROI
Is standard costing hiding your lean progress? Nick Katko connects improvement with real financial results.
In this kickoff episode of KPI Fireside, host Keith Norris sits down with Lean Accounting expert Nick Katko, author, consultant, and pioneer in connecting finance with continuous improvement.
🔻 Why Standard Costing Falls Short
🔻 The Box Score Breakdown
🔻 Common Pitfalls in Lean Journeys
🔻 The ROI of Lean & Creating Capacity
🔻 Advice for Finance Pros & CI Leaders
💡 Whether you're new to Lean or deep in your CI journey, this episode will shift how you think about operations, accounting, and leadership. Tune in for a thoughtful and practical discussion packed with real-world insights and decades of experience.
🌐 Learn more: https://www.kpifire.com/
🔗Connect with Nick Katko on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickkatko/
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Keith Norris is CEO of Complete XRM, the parent company of KPI Fire, Standup Alice, PlanPlus Online, and Pocket Informant. The show has earned over 10,000 all-time streams, and he brings operators, leaders, and improvement experts together for honest conversations about making change stick.
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